Part 10: How The West Was Lost!
This project will be presented in twelve parts. Unfortunately, I can’t change the order, so later posts will appear first. Please try to check this out in order! And your comments are important. Please post how you became aware of comics and their history!- Introduction/Comics in "real" books.
- 1960s: Reprints from the Comic Companies: 80 Page Giants & Marvel Tales!
- 1960s: The Great Comic Book Heroes
- 1960s: The Paperback Era
- 1970s: The Comic Strips AND the Comic Book Strips!
- 1970s: DC from the 1930s and the Origins at Marvel Part I
- 1970s: DC from the 1930s and the Origins at Marvel Part II
- 1980s until Today: Horror We? How's Bayou! The EC Age of Comics
- 1990s until Today: The Archives and Masterworks
- How The West Was Lost
- When Comics Had Influence: Public Service, Education & Promotion
- Journeys End, What We Leave Behind: A Century of Comics
A special thanks goes to our favorite gunslingers, The Robson Kid and Kid Caputo.
I
would also like to thank:
Kid
Colt, Apache Kid, Two Gun Kid, Kid Slade, The Outlaw Kid, Ringo Kid, Texas Kid,
Western Kid, Arizona Kid, Rawhide Kid, Kid, The Dakota Kid, The Gun-Barrel Kid,
The Rio Kid, The Sycamore Kid, Kid Melton, The Fargo Kid, The Hair-Trigger Kid,
Captain O. U. Kidd, The Durango Kid, The Hard Luck Kid, City Kid Carver, The
Nevada Kid, The Gunsmoke Kid, The Phoenix Kid, The Gun-Dance Kid, The Tombstone
Kid, The Laredo Kid, The Utah Kid, The Topeka Kid, Kid Barrett, Billy the Kid,
Cisco Kid, Fargo Kid, Prairie Kid and of course, the YELLOW KID, without whom
this blog would not be possible.
So let us continue our voyage to and from the
1960s and discover the world of comics once almost forgotten. Our expedition is
mostly into the world of reprints that were available OUTSIDE the
newsstands and comic book stores but we will have a few detours on the way.
At the beginning of the 1980s I had given up on modern
comics. Since I could not go forward, I see now that I was looking back. There was no Amazon then.
TV, the Comics
Code and the super-heroes.
In the 1940s and 1950s, westerns thrived. There were movies,
movie serials, radio shows, comics and, of course, the pulps. The pulps were
regularly- published Reader Digest-sized magazines that were very popular for more
than a half a century. They featured westerns, sports, detective, romance and
many other types of stories. A great book on
this era, was published by Chelsea House in 1970, entitled “The Pulps” edited by Tony Goldstone.
Reading then was a prime source of entertainment. Pulps and comics thrived in the era before TV... then they got crushed. Whatever genre TV latched on to soon
meant the end of that genre in the pulps and comics. When detective shows and westerns took
over TV in the late 1950s, those genres first thinned out first in the pulps and then
in the comics. When TV began producing soap operas the romance
pulps and comics began to disappear. Later,
the war comics were hurt by shows such as “The Rat Patrol” and “12 O’clock
High.” In our world of popular fiction, this will not be the
last time new media changes the old.
Westerns were not only prime time, but weekdays and Saturday mornings. We had Roy Rogers, Gene Autry and a dozen others rerunning. How something went to being so popular to being so rare escapes me.
Westerns were not only prime time, but weekdays and Saturday mornings. We had Roy Rogers, Gene Autry and a dozen others rerunning. How something went to being so popular to being so rare escapes me.
Below, is the grid for TV shows on in 1959-see how many westerns were on TV then.
From "The Complete Directory to Prime Time Network and Cable TV Shows, 1946-Present" by Tim Brooks |
The Comics Code was a powerful destructive force. If TV stole
the form of the western comics, the Comics Code removed it's substance. The action, the adventure, the violence and
the gun play were removed, often actually erased from the drawn panels. The unpredictability and the excitement were gone.
At James Madison University in 1975, Stan Lee
explained just how oppressive the code can be: “We
submit all our books to the Code authority just to make sure that there’s
nothing that slipped by us that might be harmful to a kid six months old. We
had a Western story years ago called Kid Colt and in the story there’s a shot
where Kid Colt is firing a gun. I forget what the story was, but in the panel--
you know the way you draw a guy shooting a gun, he’s in profile, and he’s
holding the gun like this and shooting it, and from the barrel of the gun
there’s a puff of smoke, and a line shooting out which denotes the trajectory
of the bullet. That page was sent back to me and they said you’ve got to change
the page, it’s too violent. I said, “What’s the matter?” And the explanation I
was given was the puff of smoke was too big. If we made the puff of smoke a little
smaller, it would be less violent. Ever anxious to contribute to a campaign of
less violence, or non-violence, I immediately whited out the puff of smoke,
drew a smaller one, and you’ll be happy to know that the younger generation was
safe.”
The Comics Code was so rigid with westerns, it would not allow a gun going
off and the person seen being shot in the same panel. You had to use two
panels. Some westerns, even before the code, were formulaic already, especially in short stories. A villain
does something bad, the good guy goes after him, saves the town and the girl.
Other westerns were not immune to
the influences of horror, crime and violence. See here, in panels from Gunfighter and Saddle Justice, both from EC comics, from
1949, that the horror and gore are here too. And maybe the first Ghost Rider. Speaking of the Ghost Rider, see his splash below, in the Dick Ayers section.
By Graham Engels |
From The EC Western reprints by Gemstone, 1996. Saddle Justice and Gunfighter |
The code took any real danger, cruelty, torture (and maybe a few zombies) out of the story. It also
removed any signs of racism, sex and serious menace. And the good guy could
never shoot anyone; he was just able to shoot the gun out of the bad guy’s
hands.Which became repetitive, boring and a bit silly.
The
code removed a lot of genres such as westerns, war, crime and horror, from the industry, and crippled many others. The reintroduction of he
super-heroes, which were the remnants of the industry, not it's savior,
affected the westerns, in may ways,
as they began to take control of the comic book industry.
An orphan is raised by
his Uncle Ben, a loving man, who is seen in just a few panels. He treats his
nephew as a son. Uncle Ben gives the teenager great wisdom and insists that his
young charge studies and learn. Later, the boy discovers that his Uncle Ben,
was killed, shot by a criminal. As his nephew learns his great new skills, he
tracks down the murderer. Instead of killing him, he turns him over to the law.
He
pledges to spend the rest of his life fighting crime. Not trusted by the law,
he must fight the good guys too. To avoid arrest he keeps his real identity a
secret. It’s August, 1960.
And such was the life of
Johnny Bart, the Rawhide Kid, as
told by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby.
Peter Parker would arrive a year later.
The structure that made the comic book westerns exciting including
the vigilantism, was now gone. These qualities
were now placed in the super-heroes. Spider-Man and Daredevil were the “new strangers in town,” bringing
criminals to justice in Dodge City. Except it was New York.
While
super-heroes began to get longer stories, often continued ones. The
story arcs also incorporated soap opera elements with their long,
complicated romances. This was not the case in the westerns.
While Marvel put modern elements in their war comics, such as Sgt. Fury, they did not put them in their westerns. Their western characters were not distinctly developed. For example, Rawhide Kid and Kid Colt were wanderers, with no supporting characters. They still all "sounded" the same when they spoke and many had the same kind of adventures. There are exceptions, the Two-Gun Kid and the Ghost Rider were established in towns and did have supporting characters and some continuity. DC also had exceptions such as Jonah Hex. Over time, the westerns and the failing romance comics did not change very much although with Red Wolf, and a decade earlier, Tomahawk, the comic companies attempted to give them a “super-hero slant.”
The war comics began to fail by the early 1970s also. It is my observation that the mixed feelings around the country regarding the conflict in Viet Nam intruded onto the war comic's storytelling. They weren't losing readers and much as no one wanted to write them anymore! That is is a whole different blog! When Martin Goodman, publisher, left Marvel in 1972, Marvel lost interest in the westerns and war, although their sales were good. In fact the westerns were reprinted them until 1980.
William W. Savage writes in his 1990 book, “Comic Books And
America 1945-1954:
“Whatever the heroic cowboy may have been on the big screen
or the little one in the 1950s, in comic books he tended to function as
detective, usually of the private variety but not infrequently under the aegis
and with the badge of some local, state, or federal law-enforcement agency. He
chased crooks, be they rustlers or despoilers of banks, railroads, stagecoaches,
or other symbols of civilization, security, and economic development. He stood
for law and order, peace and quiet, God and country, Mom and apple pie, just as
he always had.” “He was,” Mr. Savage continues, “ a cowboy without any cows.”
Well, if we change a few words like “stagecoaches” to “airplanes”
doesn’t that really now describe the super-hero?
While Marvel put modern elements in their war comics, such as Sgt. Fury, they did not put them in their westerns. Their western characters were not distinctly developed. For example, Rawhide Kid and Kid Colt were wanderers, with no supporting characters. They still all "sounded" the same when they spoke and many had the same kind of adventures. There are exceptions, the Two-Gun Kid and the Ghost Rider were established in towns and did have supporting characters and some continuity. DC also had exceptions such as Jonah Hex. Over time, the westerns and the failing romance comics did not change very much although with Red Wolf, and a decade earlier, Tomahawk, the comic companies attempted to give them a “super-hero slant.”
Enemy Ace followed by the first Sgt Rock story in Our Army at War #83, June 1959
The war comics began to fail by the early 1970s also. It is my observation that the mixed feelings around the country regarding the conflict in Viet Nam intruded onto the war comic's storytelling. They weren't losing readers and much as no one wanted to write them anymore! That is is a whole different blog! When Martin Goodman, publisher, left Marvel in 1972, Marvel lost interest in the westerns and war, although their sales were good. In fact the westerns were reprinted them until 1980.
Another major factor is that the westerns lost their great talents, such as Jack Kirby,
who in the 1950s had done Bullseye, Boy’s Ranch and the Rawhide Kid. The westerns became a training site for new
talent and if they did well, they went on to other things… mostly super-heroes. Herb Trimpe, Barry Smith, Roy
Thomas, Gary Friedrich and Steve Englehart were all brought in at the training
ground of the westerns. And when they established themselves, they left to do create super-hero stories.
I asked famed Marvel and Grim Ghost writer Tony Isabella about this: "I can
offer some speculations.Westerns were
also disappearing from movies and TV. While the genre remained popular among its devotees - there are annual
western movie conventions - it wasn't high in the public consciousness. I always wanted to write some westerns for
Marvel, but never got the chance. I did pitch the concept of a modern-day Two-Gun Kid -
this was before Englehart used the Lee/Kirby version in Avengers - but it
didn't interest anyone at the time."
Tony is right, TV would have a similar path, with westerns slowly
being replaced by private eyes, spies and a “Wagon Train To The Stars.” All these shows had the “new sheriff in town” concept.
For example, the popular, adult TV western, “Have Gun Will Travel” was co-created
by Sam Rolfe. He would go on to create the “Man From U.N.C.L.E.” series. See
how close the character of Napoleon Solo is to Paladin. Bruce Geller, another one of the
show’s writers, would go on to create both “Mission Impossible” and “Mannix.” Of course, the Wagon Train reference is for
another Have Gun alumni, Gene Roddenberry, who would create "Star Trek."
The Golden Age Westerns have not be given a great amount of attention in reprints. With some exceptions of the Rawhide Kid Masterworks and the three volumes of EC westerns published by Russ Cochran. Golden Age Greats, which had a 12 issue run, in 1994, gave us “The Best of the West” in issue #7 with stories from the 1940s and 1950s featuring The Drango Kid, The Black Phantom and many others.
In another issue, Volume 11, Bill Black returns to the westerns and features the movie stars, such as Roy Rogers, who had made it into he comic book pages. he gives very interesting and informative commentary of stars and artists who have made it into this issue, including John Wayne, Tom Mix, Frank Frazetta and many others. He also helps make my point about great artists leaving the westerns for super-hero. Here are splashes from Steve Ditko and John Buscema from the mid 1950s:
Volume 7 even included an interview with Dick Ayers, excerpted here:
THE GHOST RIDER was
created by writer Ray Krank and artist Dick Ayers. Gardner Fox took over the
writing followed by Carl Memling but every single GR story in TIM HOLT, THE
GHOST RIDER, BEST OF THE WEST and BAR-B RIDERS was illustrated by Dick Ayers.
Most likely Dick has drawn more Western stories than any other comic book
artist.
BILL BLACK: When did you start to
work for ME? (Magazine Enterprises)
DICK AYERS: April, 1948.
BILL BLACK: What was their first
assignment? Was it your first comic book story?
DICK AYERS: "Doc Holiday-
DOCTOR OF DEATH!" It was published in "COWBOYS AND INDIANS" No.
6. This was my first "all Ayers" story. Previously I had worked with
Joe Shuster and Jerry Siegel on their FUNNYMAN, but it was not a full time
job. I would drop by during the day as I was attending school at night. I
worked on the comic book. Later Joe had me pencil some of the daily strips
(FUNNYMAN also appeared as a syndicated newspaper strip).
BILL BLACK: How did you get your
job at ME? What do you remember about Ray Krank, the Editor? Vince Sullivan?
DICK AYERS: Joe Shuster
recommended me to Vin & Ray (ME published FUNNYMAN) to do their upcoming
"JIMMY DURANTE" comic book. In the 1930s Vin Sullivan produced a
strip based on Durante, SCHNOZZOLA, and my interpretation was loosely based on
this strip. Ray Krank wrote the story
BILL BLACK: What writers did you
work with? Who wrote THE CALICO KID? Whose idea was it to have THE CALICO KID
become THE GHOST RIDER?
DICK AYERS: Ray Krank wrote
Durante. I don't know of the writer's names being on scripts I got. The first
several stories might have been written by either Gardner Fox or maybe Ray
Krank. Vin and Ray came up with the concept to have CALICO become GHOST RIDER.
I took it from there with costume design.
BILL BLACK: Tell us about Carl
Memling. I don't ever recall reading about him. Here's your chance to set the
record straight.
DICK AYERS: Carl Memling was a
writer I was paired with in a strip idea for a Catholic newspaper (which didn't
get published). I liked his writing and urged him to come write for Magazine
Enterprises He frowned on writing comics but let me take a pulp Western sample
he'd had published to Ray Krank. Ray assigned him GHOST RIDER and he wrote all
of them from then on. Carl also wrote BOBBY BENSON, PRESTO KID (his creation)
and JOLLY JIM DANDY (his creation). He also wrote for Atlas and others. He
became very prolific in comics. He even wrote books I did for Al Fago. Carl
died some years ago.
BILL BLACK: Well, that's one for
the history books! Popular belief is that Gardner Fox wrote GR and PRESTO. I
even credited Fox as writer in AC's PRESTO KID comic. Thanks for setting the
record straight you mentioned Al Fago... of Charlton comics. You worked for
Charlton at this same time?
DICK AYERS: Having gotten married
in the early '50s, I had added responsibilities. I tried Stan Lee at Atlas.
There I drew Western features and horror stories... KID COLT and HUMAN TORCH.
At Chariton I did horror... THE THING and EH! DIG THIS CRAZY COMIC!"
BILL BLACK: I have some of those!
Wild stuff... like MAD. Your exaggerated style was perfect for those parodies.
So you worked for three publishers at once?
DICK AYERS: Yes, for a while.
BILL BLACK: Unlike today's comic
artists, you penciled, inked and lettered all your stories. That's quite a word
load considering how many stories you drew.
DICK AYERS: I produced 1,189 pages for ME alone.
DICK AYERS: I produced 1,189 pages for ME alone.
BILL BLACK: How did you get to
letter your own stories? Frank Belle wanted to letter his and was surprised
that you got to do your own lettering. Both he and Belfi said they received
stories to ink from ME after being lettered by an unknown letterer. Can you
identify this letterer?
DICK AYERS: No. I lettered the
Doc Holliday story in addition to pencils and inks. Ray liked the lettering so
he had me letter the Durante book. From then on I did my own lettering. I even
did it on Marvel (Atlas) stories until the '60s. Then Stan started the
"Marvel method" of scripting... I would ink stories without ever
seeing a script.
BILL BLACK: Yes, until the
implementation of the "Marvel method", your stories, being "pure
Ayers" had the same look no matter which publisher you worked for. With
Memling writing, they were virtually interchangeable. Later, when Marvel
initiated the "house style" concept, it was very hard on artists with
individual styles. But how did you handle all this work?
DICK AYERS: I had an assistant,
Ernie Bache. Ernie joined me around January, 1952 when I suddenly became very
busy with assignments from ME and Atlas. I rented studio space in Bronxville,
N. Y and we worked together there until January, 1953, when I bought a place in
White Plains. We continued working in my home studio there until the
"Code" forced us to separate due to book cancellations. We split sometime
in '55, I believe. Here's how we worked. I would letter a page first, then
rough pencil the panels, then outline it all in ink. Ernie would finish up,
weighting the lines, adding tones (crosshatching) and blacks and whatever he
thought would add to the job. We worked side by side for 3 years.
BILL BLACK: You do this neat
effect with open areas in panel borders... like when arms or rocks extend into
the panel...
DICK AYERS: That was Ernie's
innovation. He added a lot to the atmosphere.
BILL BLACK: You took over BOBBY
BENSON from Bob Powell (No. 14 - 20). Any story behind this? Do you know if
royalties were paid to the BOBBY BENSON radio show? If so, how much?
DICK AYERS: No special story. Ray
just assigned me to do BOBBY BENSON. And no, I never heard about that end of it
but when Bobby Benson was on TV played by a blonde- I had to make Bobby blonde
after long being established as having brown hair.
BILL BLACK: I thought that you
taking over BB from Bob may have led to Powell, a couple years later,
undercutting your page rate and snaking the AVENGER assignment from you!
DICK AYERS: The script for the
second issue of THE AVENGER was long overdue so I called Ray Krank to ask when
I could be expecting it "You're not going to get it," he said
"Bob Powell called asking about THE AVENGER... asking how much am I paying
Ayers to do it? Thirty Five dollars a page, I told him. Powell said he'd do it
for $28.50." So Powell got the job!
BILL BLACK: When you first told
me that story I resolved to give you the chance to do a second issue of THE
AVENGER. And we did it... for AC... forty years after the fact. It was a thrill
working with you on that.
DICK AYERS: Yeah, sure. You have
a couple up on Stan Lee. He just writes and edits. You publish, edit, write,
pencil, ink and letter!"
BILL BLACK: Don't forget
"take out the trash!" But back to GHOST RIDER-- the implementation of
the Comics Code Authority caused a lot of changes in comics. Is
that what killed THE
GHOST RIDER?
DICK AYERS: Yes. Code
restrictions... horror stories were out
BILL BLACK: One of the last
stories had dotted lines drawn on GR's face to indicate nose and mouth. Were
you instructed to do that to make the skull face less terrifying?
DICK AYERS: I don't remember
doing that... not until doing THE HAUNTED HORSEMAN for you. Incidentally I
really like that name!
BILL BLACK: No, no... we make THE
HAUNTED HORSEMAN more skull-like. This effect was to show that there was a
human face beneath the mask. Guess it was drawn on by the Comics Code authority
because you would have remembered this. The last feature you did for ME was
JOLLY JIM DANDY, the backup in DAN'L BOONE. How and why did the end of ME come
about?
DICK AYERS: Other than bad sales,
I have no idea. Ray just didn't have any more work for me on my end. Whenever a
book went below 45% sales, Vin would put it on hold. Later the book might be
revived or a story published in another book. But sales consistently dropped in
the mid-50's and ME folded.
BILL BLACK: If you can talk about
it, how did Marvel Comics get hold of the GHOST RIDER property in the mid-60's?
DICK AYERS: Fan letters requested
OR Stan told me he had the copyright and assigned me on it. The indicia in the
Marvel version had the copyright...
BILL BLACK: But back then,
copyrights ran 14 years. The last GHOST RIDER story was published by ME in
1955. The first Marvel GR was published in 1967. Hmmmm? At any rate it gave you
the chance to do him again and, as with ME, you did all the GR stories done in
the 1960's.
DICK AYERS: Yes, but Marvel
changed the concept of the GHOST RIDER.
BILL BLACK: Yes, sad but true. By
"Marvelizing" the character they made him a ghost of his former self.
The Western character was later called NIGHT RIDER when Marvel used the GR name
on a horror hero. And in the 1990's he's called PHANTOM RIDER and you drew him
in a series of 5 page backups to "original" GHOST RIDER, the
motorcycle version.
DICK AYERS: I met one of Marvels editors on a plane trip
to France in January of 1992. Later, about May. Marvel phoned assigning me
PHANTOM RIDER. It ended when the reprint book was cancelled
BILL BLACK: That was unusual. I
had heard that after many, many years of good work and faithful service, Marvel
closed the doors on you. Story?
DICK AYERS: Maybe... in my
autobiography. It was due to their reprinting so much of my work with no
compensation. My reaction? I sued.
BILL BLACK: Having drawn
countless features in your long career, Dick... what was your favorite?
DICK AYERS: GHOST RIDER!
Since 1987 AC Comics has published a great deal of Golden Age material. They have licensed many Western film heroes
including Roy Rogers and Tom Mix and have acquired permission to reprint Magazine Enterprises Durango Kid, Redmask,
Black Phantom, and Presto Kid, and many other stories which have fallen into
public domain.
Steve
Brower has been
a comic book fan and a researcher for many years. He recently put out a
book, collecting many of his favorite western stories, entitled Golden Age Western Comics. I had mentioned earlier that the original
artwork and film is forever lost from many of the companies that are out of
business. So we are lucky that Steve had these comics and wanted to share them
with us. These are comics not taken at random, but are chosen favorites out of his
personal collection.
I bought a copy of Steve’s book from Amazon and I enjoyed
it, having fun in a genre I had almost forgotten about. I think Steve wanted to give us a visit to a
time when TV, movies and pulps were just full of westerns and shoot ups. In
fact, I got so caught up in reading these stories that I left my horse double
parked! The short stories in the book were relatively simple by current standards. They featured some familiar names,
Jessie James, Gabby Hayes, Annie Oakley and Blackhawk. (Okay, so it wasn’t that
Blackhawk). In the era of super-heroes it was so interesting to find out that
the bad guys just wanted to rob a bank or a stagecoach and not take over the world. My favorite story here is that of Tom Mix.
The robbers instantly kill the Post Office clerk they intended to rob, but only
tie up Tom Mix, their only threat, when he comes to get them. As in every James Bond movie they
give the good guy an opportunity to escape!
Steve was nice enough to give us an interview. Heck, we had a discussion.
Barry: When
did you discover comics?
Steve: I actually can’t recall when I started
reading comics, it seems I always did, so probably as soon as I could read. I
would think the origins of my interest began with the Adventures of Superman
starring George Reeves. I was a huge
fan. As I was of Western T.V. shows, the Lone Ranger, Broken Arrow, Branded,
The Rebel, The Rifleman, Gunsmoke, Have Gun Will Travel, etc. But more than
anything it must have been Superman on T.V. that led me to print.
Barry: What were original favorites? How did you discover westerns and which ones did you read?
Steve: Of course which comics I read varies with what age I was which comics I read. Among the earliest were Superman, Batman and World’s Finest but I’m not ashamed to admit as a younger lad I read Casper, Richie Rich, Little Lulu, and Archie. Classics Illustrated got me through many a book report. The Western books I read were Dell, Charlton and Gold Key. Later those from Marvel, Rawhide Kid and Kid Colt.. Once I discovered Jack Kirby and The Fantastic Four life was never the same.
Barry: What gave you the idea for this book?
Steve: There have been ample anthologies of late of
the crime, horror and romance genres. Westerns seemed to be a neglected group.
I think in part because unlike those others, there’s no mitigating the
portrayal of Native Americans, and so much of the material is mired in
nostalgia. There are no contemporary anti-heroes here, little irony, the books
are pretty straight forward. But they are fun, and I that’s what readers will
come away with.
Barry: How
did you decide which comics to include?
Steve: Working backwards the publisher, powerHouse,
came up with a page count. That led me to choose shorter stories. There simply
was no room for 22 page stories. At the same time I wanted to have a mix of
“names”, both Western legends and matinee stars.
Barry: Where
did you get these comics?
Barry: How did you find the credits?
Steve: Many of
the stories are signed. I also researched via GDC and Jerry Bail’s Who’s Who.
Christopher Irving, who wrote the introduction, contributed to the credits as
well.
Barry: What
is your favorite story here?
Steve: I know
this will sound like a cop out but I like them all for different reasons.
Rather than answer that directly I will mount a defense of Manny Stallman’s
Little Eagle. Christopher criticized Stallman’s art in the intro and so far
reviews have mentioned how stiff and bizarre his art is when compared to others
included. So I’m going on record to say I like Stallman’s art. There is something very psychedelic about
that splash page and I like his page designs.
Steve: At least a thousand.
Barry: Of
what type?
Steve: Superhero, war, crime, Westerns, romance,
horror, classics illustrated, pretty much every genre except funny animals.
Lot's of S&K 50s stuff. Lots of Kirby, Ditko and of course Meskin. And all
decades.
Barry: If
you were able to do the long story westerns, which ones would you have chosen?
Steve: Gene
Autry for one. Many of the matinee stars' stories ran the full comic length.
Barry: What
were your favorite Western TV shows? (Mine were the Rifleman and Have Gun, will
Travel)
Steve: Definitely those two. My family watched
Gunsmoke every week. I remember liking Branded and The Rebel.
Barry: Did you read any of the Marvel Westerns, Ghost Rider, Rawhide Kid, Two Gun Kid?
Steve: Rawhide Kid and Two Gun Kid, yes, Ghost
Rider, no.
Barry: How about DC?
Steve: Yes, although once Marvel happened I read DC
less.
Barry: Did
you check out any of the recent revivals?
Steve: If you mean in comics, no. I don't read many
mainstream contemporary comics.
Barry: Anything
else you’d like to say about the westerns?
Steve:
Just to say I've enjoyed the chat and
appreciate the time
See you next time as we near our journey's end.