First, I would like to thank Kid Robson for cleaning up this
blog and Nick Caputo for cleaning out my closet, without whom this blog would
not be possible.
This is a review of the just released Blu Ray of the 1992
movie, Captain America, and a discussion of the Captain America
movies that had come before. It is also a study of the several origins of the Cap’s
arch enemy: The RED SKULL!!! But first:
WIKIPEDIA ALERT!
The
Wikipedia entry for the Red Skull is
inaccurate and incomplete and I tried to fix it. When you read some of the
first few paragraphs of their entry it may sound a lot like this blog, simply
because I tried to put in the correct information. Unfortunately, they removed
many of my comments, so I stopped trying. For example, they totally left out
the Red Skull stories from the 1950s.
Simply,
rather than demonstrate that there have been a least three versions of the
character, they wrote as if there was just one, the one established in 1982,
retroactively erasing a great deal what Joe Simon, Jack Kirby and Stan Lee had
done.
Captain
America, and his young partner Bucky, began their run in his comic in 1941.
Jack Kirby, Sept. 1974: “(Captain America) was a
spontaneous reaction on my part and my partner Joe Simon. We discussed it at
the time. There was patriotic fervor everywhere. It was just the climate for
that kind of thing. Captain America was a superhero of his own, specific type.
…Captain America was the first to have a patriotic theme.”
Reprint from Fantasy Masterpieces #5Captain America wrapped in the American Flag, was a patriotic hero who fought and was published during WWII, but his comic was cancelled by 1950. |
Stan Lee said, in Eye magazine in 1969, “Take
Captain America… He used to be called ‘Marvel’s Resident Fascist.’ Cap
was the first character I ever worked on 30 years ago. He was typical, an
oldtime patriotic hero—my country right or wrong. During World War II, he
killed Nazis and Japs. The war ended, but we kept treating him the same and he
didn’t sell.
Rebirth Shall Occur This Night!
First
told in Captain America #1, 1941 and later in Tales of Suspense #63,
Steve Rogers was considered too “puny” to enlist in the army during W.W.
II. Dr. Reinstein (a play on the name Einstein) gives him an
injection, a super-serum that immediately turns him into a “super” man. In
1965, with the Comics Code firmly in place, Dr. Erskine (same doctor different
name) has Rogers drink a serum with the same results. In both cases, a Nazi
immediately kills the doctor -ending the possibility of an army of
super-soldiers. At this point at no time was the Red
Skull in any way connected to the origin of Captain America
or to the Super-Soldier program as shown in the movies.
A
few years after his comic was cancelled, in 1954-55, Cap and Bucky were
brought back for a handful of issues of Young Men’s Comics and his own,
but he and the other remnants of the 1940s, (the Sub-Mariner and the Human
Torch) simply didn’t sell. Cap’s creators, Simon and Kirby had nothing
to do with these issues.
The Marvel Age
After
a “test run” in Strange Tales #114, Cap was brought back in Avengers
#4 (1964). Stan Lee and Jack Kirby reinvented Cap for the Marvel Age. Cap
had lasted until 1950 and, as mentioned, was revived in 1954. That was erased.
The Marvel Age was starting out with a clean slate, without the burden of
continuity that afflicted DC comics.
Changing
history, we discover that while trying to save the Allies from a missile attack
by Baron Zemo in 1945, Bucky was killed and Cap was frozen in ice. He
remained a Capsicle for almost 20 years until the Avengers defrosted
him.
From top to bottom, Steve Rogers get his serum in the 1940s, 1950s and 1960s. |
Stan Lee, WBAI Radio 2000: It was
even difficult to bring back a patriotic character (In 1965) because the
country wasn’t in the mood for that kind of patriotism at the time we brought
back Captain America. They weren’t interested in the Army. Nobody wanted
us to be at war, certainly, and there was a lot of disenchantment with the
government and with the establishment, and Captain America was so much
an establishment character.
Well, what I did…
do, was give him a problem. He felt he was out of sync with the time he lived
in. He felt he was an anachronism. He realized that he was thinking like
somebody in the late ‘30s and early ‘40s, but here he was living in the ‘60s,
and he felt he’d never quite be on the same wavelength as the people – You know
he had been, I think, frozen in a glacier for about 20 years or something and
consequently he would agonize about the fact that he didn’t feel he fit in. I
remember, I think there was one line I wrote that I liked very much where he
said maybe he should have battled less and questioned more, and I think that
was the philosophy we tried to give him but he couldn’t change his nature.
So
the new Marvel Age Cap was introspective as all Marvel heroes of the
time were. He felt lonely, out of place. He was an anachronism and he knew it.
And the world had changed; we no longer trusted government as we once did.
The Other Captain
Americas, First Reb Brown, 1979
This
was the second attempt to bring Cap to the screen. Movies like this one,
made quickly and cheaply, can often be so bad that they are fun to watch. Not
this movie. The first was a 1940s serial. Let’s get the second one out of
the way fast.
The
Brown Captain America looks like a very cheap TV movie. It imitates a
great deal of The Six Million Dollar Man
in both story and effects. This movie completely ignores the real origin of the
character. Perhaps the primary reason that there weren’t many Marvel Movies
until this millennium was that they required great special effects that either
were not available or were too expensive. Here, in MODERN times, Steve Rogers
is a former Marine (not at all puny) who, while injured, involuntarily takes a
serum that transforms him into….well, he doesn’t really change into anything,
he’s already a big guy. He becomes Captain America, without a
traditional Cap uniform. He does get a plastic shield, and a motorcycle,
but, unlike the original, has no patriotic calling for his mission, no
motivation. He fights a gang of villains who keep trying to kill him. The plot
was barely enough for a 30 minute TV show, let alone a 2 hour movie. The
dialogue was awful, the acting worse, the pacing tedious. This is only
available on DVD, not Blu Ray.
The Other Captain America: Matt Salinger
In
1992, Menahem Golan, the producer that ended the Superman franchise, attempts
to end the Captain America one too. This film was not released
in the United States, it escaped. It is now on Blu Ray. Gosh,
it is bad.
Cap’s
Arch enemy, The Red Skull, is the villain
here. He appeared in the early Captain America comics and he was
actually killed in his first appearance. But death is not fatal in comics and
he was brought back. Many times.
While
Darren McGavin, Michael Nouri, Scott Paulin, Kim Gillingham, Melinda Dillon,
Bill Mumy, and Francesca Neri are billed in this movie, they just have cameos,
mostly at the beginning. The movie opens in the 1940s and shows something close
to the original origin of Captain America. Again, they did not have the
resources or the budget to show the “puny” Steve Rogers turn into the “super”
and bigger Captain America, so the origin misses a major point. It does portray
the defeat of Cap at the hands of the Red
Skull and Cap’s subsequent freeze-drying and thawing out.
Here he thaws out in modern times, forty years later, not twenty as in the comics.
The
Red Skull is portrayed here much
differently than in the comics. For the first time they link the creation of
the Super-Soldier serum to the creation of the Red
Skull, which was never shown in a comic. Here the Nazis kidnap
a brilliant and innocent Italian boy and experiment on him using the
super-soldier formula. This discolors his head and creates the Red Skull, who previously, had always used a mask
to give him that look. Also, he should have been German, not Italian
- after all he is a NAZI!! One of the doctors objects to this
treatment and brings the serum over to America. The idea of connecting Captain
America and the Red Skull to the
serum was used in the latest movie. (More on this later).
Sadly,
at this point most of the name stars are gone, and what should've been a fun
movie becomes tedious and painful to watch.
The
director Albert Pyum and the star Matt Salinger appear in a twenty minute short.
Both of them strongly lament the lack of money and time that they were given to
create this movie. It really shows on screen. They did not shoot in the United
States, they shot it in Yugoslavia. Therefore nothing looks American, yet the
name of the movie is Captain America. Also, many actors have very
noticeable Italian accents.
The
action sequences are terrible. The editing is so bad you can see the use of
miniatures. At one point you see that the shield is dented when someone gets
hit over the head with it. And the movie is filled with too many 'movie
coincidences.' You know - people meeting each other on the street even
though they haven't seen each other in 50 years. In fact, when Capt.
America rescues the President of the United States, the president comments
that they had met once before when the president was a child.
This
obviously came out on Blu-ray, to profit off of the new Captain America
movie. I suspect it'll show on HBO and a few other places. Wash your hair, take
out the garbage, clean out the litter box, but don't waste your time with this
movie. It could've been fun, but it's not. (However, there are
brief references to the Human Torch, Sub-Mariner and Jack Kirby!) And the
picture and sound are way below average.
The
Comic Book History of the Red Skull: Back From the
DEAD!
I
know I am repetitive, but I did put some of this up on Wikipedia the last week
of May, 2013.
The
Red Skull was introduced in Timely
Comics' Captain America Comics #1 (cover-dated March 1941), edited and
drawn by the team of Joe Simon and Jack Kirby, with a script by Ed Herron. Jack
Kirby said at the San Diego Comic Con and several other places that “Ed Herron
also fathered the Red Skull."
The
Red Skull later appeared in issues #3 and
#7. Originally, in those Golden Age issues, The Red
Skull was George Maxon, the owner of the Maxon Aircraft Company that
made airplanes for the U.S. Army. As the Red Skull,
he attempts to rob banks in order to raise money to overthrow the U.S.
Government. He says, "Of course you realize the main item in
overthrowing the government is money." In his Golden Age stories,
Maxon wore a mask to create the look of the Red
Skull and his face was often exposed and known. At this point, The Red Skull had no real origin story. Some people,
including Wikipedia, are retroactively giving the name Johann Schmidt to the
character at this time, but that was never part of the Simon and Kirby world
and wouldn't be used for half a century.
Back From the DEAD!
Captain
America Comics was discontinued in 1950. In 1954, both Captain
America and the Red Skull were
brought back in Young Men Comics #24, in a story entitled "Back
from the Dead!" Here the Red Skull,
thinking Captain America is dead, has left politics and started a
big criminal enterprise in the United States. Steve Rogers and
Bucky aren't dead, but are a teacher and a student at the Lee School,
where they haven’t aged a bit. With the Red Skull on
the loose (and after a recap of their origin) and soon defeat their enemy. In his
next appearance, in issue #27, the Red Skull
is once again left for dead as the series and characters are quickly cancelled.
In the retelling of this 1950s story during the Marvel Age, in Captain America #153-6, Cap and Bucky take the serum together.
A decade passes: Stan Lee and Jack Kirby revive the Captain in Avengers #4 (March 1964) and he soon gets his own series again in Tales of Suspense #59 (November 1964).
In the retelling of this 1950s story during the Marvel Age, in Captain America #153-6, Cap and Bucky take the serum together.
A decade passes: Stan Lee and Jack Kirby revive the Captain in Avengers #4 (March 1964) and he soon gets his own series again in Tales of Suspense #59 (November 1964).
SPECULATION!!!!!
In Avengers #4 we learn that a mysterious Nazi caused the rocket
launch that froze Cap and killed Bucky. Soon we discover that it was
Baron Zemo, a completely masked Nazi. In is my opinion, is
that Stan was unsure whether the Comics Code would let the horrible looking Red Skull be used, so they used his exact
opposite, a man without a face. In May 1965, in Tales of Suspense #65,
the Red Skull does return. He is still
horrible looking, but cleaned up a bit. In fact, when Marvel reprinted his 1941
stories in Fantasy Masterpieces, they redrew his face to make it less
horrible. I suspect, however, that the Comic Code allowed the Red Skull because he was a rotten Nazi. And I
don’t think it was a coincidence that the month the Red
Skull appeared in Tales of Suspense, Zemo was killed off in
the Avengers. Lee and Kirby also had to clean up the Red Skull’s act a bit: instead of killing everyone
in sight, the Red Skull used sleeping gas
to knock them out.
Most
of Captain America’s early TOS stories were flashbacks of the World War
II era, where he fought with Bucky. In issues #65 through 68, which also take
place during WW II, the Red Skull relates
his origin to Captain America.
Here,
Lee and Kirby try to fix the original stories told in Captain America
#1, 3 and 7. The Red Skull states that
the original Maxon was killed and replaced with a duplicate, and that the
“new” Maxon only “pretended” to be the Red
Skull. The Red Skull revealing
this is the only 'real' one. Naturally, when a Nazi murderer, thief,
and saboteur tells a story we believe him. Why would he lie?
The
Red Skull says he was a “nameless orphan”
who stole food in order to survive. He spent as much time in jail as out
of it. He becomes a bellhop in Germany during the rise of Nazism and gets to
meet Hitler. 'Der Fuhrer', seeing the hatred in his eyes, takes him
under his wing and begins to develop “The perfect Nazi”, a man who is “evil
personified.” We never see his face during the story, but Hitler does give him
his red mask! The Red Skull rises to
power in Germany, second only to Hitler, by using violence, torture and other
bad stuff. “Whenever there was injustice, tyranny, ruthlessness, the Red Skull was there. This was NOT the Red Skull of the 1940s, who did not have any
political power.
Until
1981, no origin story regarding Cap
featured the Red Skull in any way. The
first time this would occur is in the 40th
Anniversary issue of Captain America,
#255 published in 1981. Roger Stern and John Byrne stuck pretty close to the
Simon, Lee and Kirby origins, just expanding the back story on the Presidential
involvement in “Operation Rebirth.” Here the President, when giving Steve
Rogers his costum,e would tell the new Captain
America that he needed someone to counteract the Red
Skull.
It
is frequent in Comicbook land to redo characters and make them more up to
date - or, frankly, to get more stories out of popular characters. The Red Skull has been redone several times.
In Captain America #298, 1984, he once again holds Cap hostage
and tells him his (new) origin. The Red Skull
admits to previously telling Cap a 'story' (TOS #66), but says he will
now tell him the truth.
Here,
ridiculously, the Red Skull says he is
able to remember being in his peasant mother’s womb and being born in 1899.
His father was a “drunken” lout named Herman Schmidt. The Red Skull, minutes old, not only remembers his
father’s face when the doctor tells him that his wife died during
childbirth, but is also able to understand everything that went on!
Herman attempts to kill the baby for causing his wife's death, but the
doctor instead kills Herman and saves the child. The Red Skull then says he has always wanted to kill the doctor for
saving him. This essentially changes the origin that Simon, Kirby and Lee had
used for years. The Red Skull is
given a name, Johann Schmidt, and had a more violent youth than was
previously shown - murdering girls who wouldn’t date him for example. He
does meet Hitler in much the same way as previously revealed and is trained to
be a Nazi soldier.
On the island of Exiles, The Red
Skull meets a “washer-woman” who looks like his mother and decides
to have a child with her. She also dies during childbirth. He wanted a son
and is so disappointed to have a daughter he almost kills her, mirroring
many of the events of his own birth. The Skull,
without his mask, and with a perfectly human face, will die in the arms of Steve Rogers in issue
#300.
The Face of the RED SKULL!: Back From the DEAD!
Remember death is not fatal in comics. The Skull returns in issue #350 and keeps the
secret of his recovery to himself. Here, however, he uses a poison that
kills people and turns their faces into a red skull. Cap, of course, turns the
table on the murderer and has the poison infect the Skull
himself. While this does turn
him into a real Red Skull, but for some reason doesn’t kill him. This is similar to the events of his first appearance in Captain America #1. This is first time the colored skull was real,
not a mask!
An innocent victim, poisoned and turned into a red skull. |
The Red Skull gets a dose of his own medicine and turns into the Red Skull, but he doesn't die. Not that it would make any difference if he did, he would soon be Back From The DEAD! |
The Red Skull himself is similar, perhaps inspired by, Batman’s Joker. He has an unusual and instantly frightening and evil face and loves to kill. His Modus operandi
here is also very similar to the Joker’s in his first appearance
in Batman Comics #1 (and the Michael
Keaton movie) where he kills people using a poison that leaves a “Joker’s expression
on their face.”
The next big step in the Red Skull’s new origin appears in Red Skull Comics #1-5, in a series entitled “Red Skull Incarnate,” by Greg Pak and Mirko Colak. The story begins in Munich in 1923 and bypasses the Red Skull’s early life, concentrating only on the period of time somewhat glossed over in his previous origins, where he was a drifter as a young man. The object of this story seems to be to align the Red Skull with the real events in Germany surrounding the growth of Nazism. This tale is inconsistent with the events of his previous origins, but that’s the way it goes! The story ends before he meets Hitler and becomes the Red Skull. Therefore we NEVER see him with his mask in these stories.
The
last two versions are too violent and graphic for me. It’s not just
that they'd be too strong for the Comics Code, but also too
violent for Simon and Kirby - who created the character long before the
code, yet never featured stuff like this.
Stan
Lee:
I’ve
always felt that one of the Red Skull's main attractions was his name. Names
are of incredible importance in comicbooks… Somehow, I doubt that the Red Skull
would have enjoyed the same measure of notoriety, of villaindom success, if his
name were the Pink Earlobe—or even the Chartreuse Kneecap.
Another
point to ponder is the Skull's appearance. I ask you to note the sophisticated
restraint, the subtle underplaying, the lack of ornamentation on his jaunty
little jumpsuit. Except for the symbol of the swastika, sewn on his costume for
the purpose of preventing our younger readers from mistaking him for a good
guy, he could be any airline maintenance man or service station
mechanic—until we see his face. And there, students, is where it's at. That's
the reason the rest of his garb is so subdued—to call attention to the scarlet
skull mask which makes him so unique in the annals of burgeoning bad-hood.
A minor point: "Johann Schmidt" is a German variation on "John Smith".
ReplyDeleteI think the idea was to give the Skull a name, but make it a supposedly-extremely common one (as "John Smith" is in English) to make him a German "everyman" who could be molded and corrupted by Nazi evil.
Thanks for the comment, It's a very good thing to point out.
ReplyDeletePleaser say hello to Kato!
Warned you that I'd post my horrendously-long comments and nit-picks here too. You poor soul, Barry.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Mistah Britt, for bringing up Mark's input into Skull history: the name of Johann Schmidt. If the Skull was indeed telling the truth during any of the Gruenwald stories.
My memory after 1991 is really, really bad - but (way back in 1967, when I saw my first view of the Great Comic Book Heroes) I'd have sworn that Dr Reinstein was Dr Erskine in Cap #1. Don't trust my memory though on this though, since I've since lost my references.
Some things, though, I do remember well - and have references to jog my memory. George Maxon was the Skull for his/its first two appearances, and then Maxon vanished until HIS retcon in 1964 or 1965. Beginning with the Red Skull's third appearance, one would be hard pressed to prove he was wearing a skull mask. See, f'rinstance, the original splash from Cap #7 which you reproduced in your column. After S&K left, the Skull was the Skull and that was that - even to the point of pulling Cap down to Hell with him. Or it.
In Young Men #24, Steve & Bucky do not take the Super Soldier Serum, or even retake it. That was added by Steve Englehart & Sal Buscema with new panels in between reprinted panels from YM #24. In the retcon, these were ersatz versions of Cap & Bucky, based on an idea by Roy Thomas (who took the ball back and ran with it in an imaginary Invaders story which wasn't imaginary after all). According to Englehart's script, the 1950s Skull was a phony also.
In Cap #350, the Skull returns and uses his Skull toxin to turn people into Dead Skulls. This was not, however, the first time in Marvel continuity. He used his dust in several of the Englehart stories, illustrated by Frank Robbins in a manner which was creepier than even the Joker toxin of 1940, 1977, and the Tim Burton Universe.
And that's all the nitpicking I could manage. We aged fanboys are pathetic in our fact checking of things which only matter to other aged fanboys. Get off my lawn, you kids!
Chet I can answer the first point:
ReplyDeleteYes, they used the name Reinstein in the 1940s and 1950s version. Lee changed it to Erskine because it was such a “rip off of Einstein.” When called on this he later said that Reinstein was the “code word for the doctor.” In Cap #255 they restate all this, Erskine was his name, Reinstein was his code name.
I don’t know where to go with Cap #7. Because he is always called The Red Skull and doesn’t seem to wear a mask, well, I don’t know if that should be considered a change. The Chameleon doesn’t appear to have a mask and uses one all the time. And honest to gosh, in this story The Skull wears a mask OVER his mask, that of an Englishman, and it doesn’t look like a mask!!!
I probably wrote it wrong, but I did not mean to imply that the skull poison was new to the series, just that this was the first time HE, HIMSELF got infected by it.
Chet thanks for everything. It’s always fun.
I think it's wrongheaded to refer to DC as being "afflicted" by the "burden of continuity" in the context of the 1960s--when DC was then so entirely NOT burdened by continuity that they created the entirely new Flash, Green Lantern, Hawkman, and Atom, characters completely NOT related to the 1940s characters of the same name. Responding to fan requests, DC did establish the concept of parallel Earths to bring the 1940s characters back--but in the 1960s, at least, these were just supporting players. The top attractions were the Silver Age versions and the new continuity that was being created.
ReplyDeleteAt the beginning of the 1960s, as I recall,were the biggest sellers at DC were the Superman and Batman Family of comics. Superman and Batman appeared in the majority of super-comics published every month: Superman in: Action, Superman, Jimmy Olsen, Lois Lane, Adventure, Superboy, World’s Finest and JLA. Batman appeared in Batman, Detective, World’s Finest, JLA and eventually the Brave and the Bold. In fact DC had only three monthly super-hero comics and they were in it. All the others were 6-8 times a year. With the exception of the Justice League, Superman and Batman were NOT rebooted. And as I mentioned had the burden of some much that was written 20 years ago.
ReplyDeleteAlso, being in some many comics there couldn’t be a break from continuity, at that time it would involve so many writers and artists. So the characters were even colored the same, Clark Kent always had a blue suit.
Most important is that you could take a story, not just from this group but from the Flash, Green Lantern and the Atom, from 1960 and place it in a comic published in 1965 or 1970 and it would not seem out of order.
Reed and Sue got married and had a child, Peter Parker went through a few girlfriends, the Avengers changed membership and even the Sub-Mariner went from being a villain to being the noble ruler of Atlantis.
What changed at DC? You can mention a few little things, usually from supporting characters, but that’s it.
Stan's assertion that Cap was the "first" patriot-themed super hero is not 100% accurate. Archie Comics' Shield had a costume with a stars-and-stripes motif before Captain America first appeared. Of course, Cap had much better artwork, and the Shield is all but forgotten now. Attempts to revive the Archie/MLJ heroes in the 1960's and 1980's were not successful.
ReplyDeleteAnd Cap's shield had to be changed because they were sued for plagiarizing The Shield's chest insignia
DeleteWhen Cap was revived in Avengers #4, it was stated that he had been frozen in suspended animation, and that Bucky had been killed, in 1945. That contradicted their appearances in late 1940's comics as well as their brief 1954 revival. So, What If #4 later explained that the post-war Cap and Bucky were impostors. An early example of Roy Thomas' retroactive continuity.
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Actually, the doctor didn't kill Hermann. The doctor stopped Hermann from killing the Skull, and Herman killed himself later. It was also revealed that after dying as an old man in #300, Skull's mind was put in the body of a Cap clone, which is why he looks like Cap in the #350 storyline. I don't remember what comic that side story was in though.
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